My dad was dying and he knew it ...

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... but he didnt want me to no.

The sucker tot i was studying for my exams, and he didnt want me to travel from Kanpur to Mumbai to be at his death bed.

He figured my studies wud suffer

Living Life Backwards

I want to live my next life backwards.

You start out dead and get that out of the way. Then you wake up in an

old age home feeling better every day. Then you get kicked out for

being too healthy.



Enjoy your retirement and collect your pension. Then when you start

work, you get a gold watch on your first day. You work 40 years until

you're too young to work.



You get ready for High School, drink alcohol, party, and you're generally promiscuous.



Then you go to primary school, you become a kid, you play, and you

have no responsibilities.



Then you become a baby, and then...

You spend your last 9 months floating peacefully in luxury, in

spa-like conditions - central heating, room service on tap, and

then..........



You finish off as an orgasm.



I rest my case………………………!

- dat was VEST

A guy gets on a plane and finds himself seated next to a cute blonde.He immediately turns to her and makes his move."You know," he says, "I've heard that flights will go quicker if youstrike up a conversation with your fellow passenger. So let's talk."

The blonde, who had just opened her book, closes it slowly and says to the guy, "What would you like to discuss?""Oh, I don't know," says the guy, smiling. "How about nuclear power?""OK," says the blonde. "That could be an interesting topic. But letme ask you a question first.

A horse, a cow, and a deer all eat thesame stuff -- grass. Yet the deer excretes little pellets, the cowturns out a flat patty, and the horse produces muffins of dried poop.Why do you suppose that is?"

The guy is dumbfounded. Finally he replies, "I haven't the slightestidea""So tell me," says the blonde, "How is it that you feel qualified todiscuss nuclear power when you don't know shit?"

-dat was some more shit from VEST

the pic u see here is of spoiled brats

KIDS all of dem

What they dont teach u at the IIM's and at JNU

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Lalu yesterday

http://in.rediff.com/election/2005/feb/16espec1.htm

Lalu today

A Management Consultant

As Rail Minister, he brought about a turnaround in the fortunes of the Indian Railways

Financial turnaround of Indian Railways
When Lalu took over, the Indian Railways was a loss-making organization. The Rakesh Mohan Committee (headed by Rakesh Mohan, secretary, department of economic affairs) had termed it a 'white elephant' and predicted that it was destined to hit Rs 61,000 crore (Rs 610 billion) in bankruptcy by 2015 [20].

Defying all these predictions , the Railways booked an unprecedented surplus of 110 billion rupees (2.47 billion dollars)[21]. Lalu Prasad Yadav is now credited with engineering the financial turnaround of Indian Railways, that was on the verge of bankruptcy before his appointment to the office. What makes his performance commendable is that he has left passenger fares untouched and has found several other profitable sources of revenue for the Railways.
He announced this turnaround during his Budget-Speech-06-07 in these words:
“
Sir, I take pride in informing this House that in the first nine months of the year 2005-06, the Railways’ output has been record breaking. The growth in freight loading is 10% and in freight revenues it is over 18%. Based on the trends up to now, the freight loading target is being increased from 635 mt to 668 mt and the goods revenues target from Rs. 33,480 cr to Rs. 36,490 cr. Thus, Railways would achieve incremental freight loading of 111 mt in two years itself, which will be 133% higher as compared to the incremental loading of 83 mt of entire Ninth Five Year Plan period. Tenth Plan targets of 624 mt loading and 396 billion tonne kilometers have been surpassed one year in advance. Sir, I not only hope but firmly believe that we would surpass the Tenth Five Year Plan’s incremental target of 63 billion tkm for freight business by over 200%. )[22].
”
The impressive turnaround of the Indian Railways is now being studied by the students of the Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad.[23].Prof G. Raghuram, a faculty member, IIM-A , has already conducted a detailed study on the Railways turnaround [24].
On September 18, 2006, Lalu delivered a lecture to management students and the faculty at IIM-A, explaining finer points of the Indian Railways "turnaround".[25].A study conducted by The Indian Express concludes [26] :
The turnaround of the Railways is real, touchable and backed by record-breaking figures.
The turnaround is deeper than petty restructuring.
The turnaround has happened without any increase in fares or freight rates.
The turnaround has been led by Lalu.
As part of his drive to modernise the railways Lalu Prasad Yadav has decided to send nearly 100 top officials, 25 General Managers of different railway zones and 60 Divisional Railway Managers to Management Schools in the United States of America and France for training in the latest techniques and to sharpen their managerial skills [27]. He is also seeking agreement with Italian National Railways.

[edit] International interest in Lalu
It has been learnt through various sources that many foreign embassies and universities like the Harvard and HEC Management School,France have sought his bio-data to know more about him [28]. It's reported that The Indian government has been inundated with requests from embassies and high commissions asking for Lalu's bio-data, as well as the possibility of a visit, ever since he became a Minister in the Central Government. Speaking to Asia Times Online, Lalu said, "People all over the world want to know how the son of a cowherd has risen to such heights. Their interest in me is a victory of Indian democracy." One of his officials said more than 100 missions have sought his bio-data and asked questions about him.[2][29] Mr. Yadav, in France for a conference, met Professor Steven R Ditmeyer, a former World Bank and US railway official now on deputation to National Defense University. According to Sudhir Kumar, Officer-on-Special duty for Mr. Yadav, "The professor is intrigued by the man behind the success story of the railways and will be visiting India soon to learn more about him as well as the turnaround. His subject of the case study would be -- How has a man with no formal education brought about a change of this magnitude?" On basis of his view, Harvard Business School will consider a case study on the railways. However, in reality, Mr. Yadav is a post graduate in Political Science from the Patna University and also holds a Bachelor-at-Law - - degree from the same institution.
On a similar note Karine Lejoly of HEC says, "We are looking at making the Indian Railways a part of our course. While nothing has been finalised as of now, I will be visiting India in October-November to talk to the concerned officials."

Big businesses has also recognised his potential.The world's largest corporations like GE, Bombardier and Alstom has shown interest in the Railways’ paradigm shift.International B-schools like Harvard Business School, HEC, Carnegie Mellon and North-Western University have also shown keen desire to understand the magic of Lalu. [30].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laloo_Prasad_Yadav

Shah Rukh Khan : His story

http://www.pyara.com/shahrukh/about.htm

Memorable lines from SRK Movies:

Deewana -
"Haan, haan, mujhe ishq hua hai!"
Darr -
"Ki-ki-ki... Kiran!"
Baazigar -
"Haar ke jeetne waale ko Baazigar kehte hain."
Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge -
"It's alright, Senorita. Bade, bade deshon mein, aisi chhoti chhoti baatein hoti rehti hain."
Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge -
"Pyar karti ho mujhse? Bharosa hai mujh par? Phir to bas, doli uthne ki der hai. :~)"
Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge -
"Le jayenge, le jayenge, dilwale dulhania le jayenge..."
Chaahat -
"Dekha Narayan, mujhe nahi lagta!"
Yes Boss -
"Yes Boss!"
Yes Boss -
"Achhe logon ke saath, hamesha achha hi hota hai."
Dil To Pagal Hai -
"Mar gaya Rahul!"
Dil To Pagal Hai -
"Hi, I'm Rahul, naam to suna hoga!"
Dil Se.. -
" Dil se!"
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai -
"Kuch kuch hota hai, Anjali. Tum nahi samjhogi."

Kuch Kuch Hota Hai -
"Squeeze me!"
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai -
"Rahul Khanna kabhi bhi kisise nahi darta."
Mohabbatein -
"Duniya mein kitni hain nafratein, phir bhi dilon main hain chaahetein.

Mar bhi jaayen pyar waale, mit bhi jaayen yaar waale, zinda rehti hain unki mohabbatein!"
Kal Ho Naa Ho -
"Aaj... Aaj ek hassi aur baantlo

Aaj ek dua aur maanglo

Aaj ek aansu aur peelo

Aaj ek zindagi aur jeelo

Aaj ek sapna aur dekhlo

Aaj... kya pata...Kal ho naa ho!"
Main Hoon Na -
"Main hoon na!"
Kajol by Shruti - Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge - Kuch Kuch Hota Hai - Bollywood Dhol Dhamaka - Shruti's Homepage

I hate men ...

... especially married men
i hate my self?

Married men got married on a dream of a romance of a life time
But dis dream turned sour very soon

The girl u loved became a mother
and no man wants to be a mudda fucker ...

Dont get me rong
wat i mean is once your girl is married to u

wat was once a beautiful sex experience is now a marital duty
and is taken for granted

no more candle light dinner and candy kisses
now u r on call
like a gigolo

and if u dont perform
u r ridiculed

but in order to perform
u need the ambience

especially when u r 56

What is our Dharma ?

go here http://www.parmarth.com/updates/dec2003/message.html

How to give a great Massage

http://www.learn-massage-online.com/index.htm

My Dream

http://imnutsincapstooo.blogspot.com/2005/05/i-have-dream-dat-one-day.html

i miss Janice

http://janicemumbai.blogspot.com/

the future is Awaiting

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All u white folks out there
u wont find any more whites on dis planet very soon

the world is mixing as awaiting has already done
u gotta face the fact
every 5th person in dis world is Indian if not chinese

the chinese and indians are mixing too
So there wont be white folks like Karen (anti-immigrant) and Michele (anti-indian)


Michele and Karen may hide from Saby for now
but sooner or later a guy from India is gonna hump u guys and give u brown children like awaiting

Picture a beautiful sea of brown guys
no more white, black or yellow

gott dis idea from Russel Peters

must see

go here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPn34sUCpd8

Heyyy Awaiting,

if u give me your mail address, i will courier the CD to u with love along with the costume jewellery dat i bought especially for u

out goes Alfred E Neumann, welcome Jim

I am a New Man now
no more Alfred E Neumann


tanks to the new Beta Blogger

Gandhigiri

http://www.incredibleindia.org/


http://www.gandhigiri.org/
http://calendars.excite.co.uk/2007/girls/lingerie/january



Topic: How to use Gandhigiri on GF's father? Posted: 25 Jan 2007 at 11:16am
Hi,I and my gf are trying hard to make her father agree for our alliance(caste and language difference).My parents have agreed for it but her father just won't budge.Any bright ideas to fix this problem?Thanks.--dude.

saby Guest
Posted: Today at 5:59am
Shucks
i dunno

perhaps u cud elope
but then SRK succeeded by being nice in DDLJ

visit here for some more ideas
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Nafisa Joseph and friend

Lonely at the Top
Beauty, brains, fame, money, youth, and a Miss India title in 1997. 25-year-old Nafisa Joseph seemed to have it all. And yet, the beautiful VJ committed suicide on July 30. A look at the murky side of glamor.
Showbiz remains an elusive, beautiful dream to many star struck young women and men. Who does not want to shine up there? But is life in showbiz as attractive as it seems? How does one work in a world, which barters youth in exchange for popularity and fame? Many beautiful women, drawn to the arc lights like moths to a flame, often find that they do so at the cost of their mental health. Women, especially, are more vulnerable. With no one to turn to and no support system, one hears of actresses who 'have it all' committing suicide out of the blue.
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Showbiz is full of tragic examples - one of the most famous being the suicide of Divya Bharti, only 19, beautiful, successful and married to a film producer besides. She fell down from the balcony of her fifth floor apartment in 1993 and reports later suggested that she was suffering from depression. Many actresses, in fact, suffer from depression and barely scrape through while the more vulnerable ones succumb - like Nafisa did at the age of 25.
Nafisa started modeling when she was 12. As she grew up, Prasad Bidapa, a known 'model maker' in Bangalore, groomed her. Nafisa was crowned Miss India in 1997 - at the age of 18. Soon, she became even more popular as a VJ with music channel MTV hosting 'Housefull' for five years.
At heart, however, all that Nafisa wanted was to have a fulfilling relationship and a family of her own - both eluded her. She had been engaged to Sameer Malhotra of Bangalore and later to actor Sameer Soni. There were rumours of a romance with actor Rahul Bose. None of these worked out. However, it seemed like she had met her soul mate in businessman Gautam Khanduja who she described as caring and sensitive. There were even plans for getting married in August. But it was not to be. According to the police, the couple had been fighting not long before Nafisa decided to take the extreme step. Police said that there were injuries on her forearms and also on her neck and left eye. Though they could be self-inflicted and police suspect no foul play, police are trying to locate Khanduja in order to get a clear picture.

Her shocked friends described Nafisa as calm and never one to throw tantrums. A quiet and composed person, Nafisa always knew what she wanted and was confident of getting it. However, like all artists, there was also a very moody side to her, which she managed to hide well when she was modelling. And she was never a very open person, they say now.
Nafisa had admitted that loneliness was always a big problem - success breeds loneliness. And it was that loneliness that led to her untimely death.
The Darbars
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Viewer(s) Comments
feel terrible, she could have spoken to someone, she was so beautiful!
lorraine 11/9/2006 10:18:03 AM
hi,i have seen nafisa joseph in a t.v series c.a.t.s.but i m feel very sorrowful & sad why nafisa joseph u r commited suicide
tejas 10/25/2006 10:53:56 AM
hiii hope ur well,am new here i want to make frnds with pple in india.
juneid 10/19/2006 12:21:12 AM
hi nafisa HOW ARE YOU MY NAME IS TOO NAFISA I WANT KNOW YOU WHERRE YOUR FROM BECAUSE I'M FROM AFGHANISTAN AND MY NAME IS NAFISA AND I WNT YOU AND ME WAS FRIEND PLEASE SEND FOR ME AMAIL OK PLEASE IF YOU SEND FOR ME AMAIL THANKS SO MUCH AND I WAS HAPPY IF YOU NOT I MAD YOU OK BY I KNOW YOU DONT HAVE TIME BUT KHUSHISH KARTIHU OK IF YOU SEND ME I THINK KAREENNA WAS SENJD FOR ME BECAUSE ALL BOLLOOWUD WAS SERND FOR ME AND NAWV I WANT YOU SEND ME OK eXAPLE WHO;KAREENA KAPOOR,SRIDEVI,SHAH RUKH KHAN,AMISHA PATEL AND THE LAST BOLLOWUD WAS HRITHIK ROSHAN AND ALSO I WANT YOU SEND OK PLERASE ITS BAJBURI NAHIHE OK BY SEE YOU LATTER NBY FRIEND AND FRIENDLY.
nafisa 6/7/2006 1:57:22 PM
she is an angel.god give u pees.
nilay 3/25/2005 4:42:36 AM
may ur soul rest in peace
sumeet 12/2/2004 5:22:07 AM
i like your songs maxi
ghafoor 11/25/2004 1:59:56 AM
realy you are the best singer
ghafoor 11/25/2004 1:44:01 AM
This is not good
Mansoor 11/22/2004 3:12:14 PM
I went to school with Nafisa in Bangalore (we were in the same class). I am SO saddended by this news. It's such a wasted life. She was always so calm in school, always collected - this is so unlike her. I am mortified that there are the anti-depressent drugs out there, that people get hooked on to. I am also moritfied that she could not find a single soul to talk to before she had to take this drastic step. For shame!
AC in San Francisco 11/4/2004 3:14:07 PM
may god give you a better place free from all wordly hatered
saurabh 11/2/2004 7:13:26 PM
OHHHHh
manishhhh 10/27/2004 7:21:56 PM
i wants afriend who is like you.
asif Nadeem Alika 10/24/2004 11:11:15 PM
mujhe buhat afsos huwa ke nafisa ne suiside ki meri fav model thi pata nahi kiya mazboori pareshani thi is ko koi aesi nahi suiside kerta jab koi baat had se barh jaye jab hi koi yeh srep leta hai aurmain kehta hoon kash nafisa zinda hoti per kash yeh kash herjaga hota hai per kiya karain kash nafisa...
ALI JIBRAN 10/7/2004 11:27:23 AM
let it be, may ALLAH give her comfort there.
nidyapk 10/7/2004 2:39:36 AM
i think yur are well and do work well
ibrahim 10/1/2004 6:46:24 AM
Your Naem is god but you going to very bad habit
P C G 9/30/2004 11:58:39 AM
'To god we belong and to him we return'
Message 9/14/2004 10:00:37 AM
i really feel sorry for you why didnt u wait and chose a differnt guy ur a pain in the neck
queen 9/14/2004 5:23:10 AM
I am from Malaysia and saddedned by her death.Let her rest in peace...Dont judge her...leave that toAllah s.w.t
edelweiss 9/14/2004 2:34:43 AM
hey!Now she is gone then why we should be comitting that she was gud or bad plz leave all this.Leaveit to Allah 2 decide..........
raja 9/13/2004 6:23:58 PM
Ab to Adaat si hai mujko Aise jeene ki(She's gone and the things left r the one missing her...And plz U all out there dont comit sucides.Killing urself is the biggest crime...Dont even think about it,Face the hardships of life
raja 9/13/2004 6:19:59 PM
Ohhh.. Unbelievable,Nothingconsole at these times, May her soul rest in piece, Friends , when Nafisaor any one who commits suicide like this , it is only bcoz of loneliness and not being able to share thoughts, had she got some one not even close , but at least a person to talk this mishap could have been avoided,so even if u will see around , you will find a lot of guys suffering from the same ,Nafisa is gone , but you could.. save .. some one by a few kind thoughts and words
Reza 9/12/2004 7:00:40 PM
i think that most of the comments written here are stupid...we dont really know the main deal y she took that step, insteada praying for her soul rest in peace, you guys are calling her screwed up names, u guys call it haram how many of have done haram things and gotten away wid it like i know so many muslims who have eaten pigs meat thats haram too but the only thing is they got away wid it, yes suicide is a sin but can one person step fwd and say they have never sinned!! i dont think anyone ofu have the balls man..
Ethan 9/11/2004 10:03:00 AM
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NOOR 9/11/2004 8:25:46 AM
hiiiiii i know ur very beautyful.
tilaksonam 9/11/2004 6:30:01 AM
rrtrrn yhjjhj
bashirkhan 9/11/2004 6:01:46 AM
hoi nafisa mubarak hoe yaar xxxxxxx
wahid jan 9/11/2004 5:47:24 AM
salam nafisa nay agar kudkashi kari hay tu us nay ya boht bari bhool kari hay q k ya haram hay aur agar katal kai hay tu ya sorry ..... q k kafer ki muot boht bori hoti hay alha us ko kabhi bhi maaf nahi karta hay us ko agg may daldayta hay bus .......... ab tu us ka allha hi malik hay
lovely 9/10/2004 12:02:55 PM
she was good but her lonliness kills her. she took that decision in hurry but she was the best VJ ever.
yashica 9/10/2004 9:19:36 AM
u r very bad girl
hhussan 9/10/2004 3:34:01 AM
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
buh 9/9/2004 6:10:52 PM
may god keep her family happy after her sad demice.
Madhura 9/9/2004 3:53:24 AM
o GOD, im really shocked to hear that...may god rest her in peace...she was very cute, especially her smile...i feel sooo sad...
Nafisa 9/8/2004 8:17:31 PM
Nothing
Sham 9/8/2004 10:35:07 AM
I was very upset to hear that news from GEO.anyways may her soul rest in peace.i love nafisa.She wasma fav VJ
SEHRISH 9/8/2004 8:06:40 AM
One should always believe that there is a way out for every problem. This is no way to deal life.
prasanna 9/7/2004 12:49:29 PM
ohhh..you made such a error darling,nobody can remove it.because "Jo Gaye Ahle Chaman se ! Woh NahiAane ke Phir,Jhad Unki Kabra Par Hain Aur Nishan Kuch BHi Nahin"
mayank mishra 9/7/2004 11:40:05 AM
may her soul rest in peace
sheetal 9/7/2004 8:18:26 AM
no comments
aashi 9/6/2004 7:25:15 AM
may God rest ur soul in peace
sabeeka 9/6/2004 12:27:08 AM
WEL WHENEVER I HEARD THE KIND OF SUDDEN DEATHS LIKE THIS I ALWAYS THINK THAT HOW A PERSON CAN LEAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL WORLD MADE BY ALLAH.umaya_khan_2004@hotmail.com
umaya 9/5/2004 3:47:07 PM
yah what can i say abt it akher jana hi hai wahan bas muatt ka koi na koi bahana ban jata hai but i saw her in a song
umaya 9/5/2004 3:39:05 PM
many die because of starvation, they fight, i think nafisa did very bad thing, she must fight, any how Allah unhe jannat de
fry biryani 9/5/2004 1:47:38 PM
I think Nafisa did a stupid thing.She just cant turn out to be a loser.I met her so many times and Iwas shocked to hear this.May Allah rest her soul in peace.I have a message for all the young girls,always listen to your parents and never ever do what nafisa did,whatever the reason.
Salman Khan 9/5/2004 1:14:29 PM
May your soul rest in peace.
zones123 9/5/2004 6:47:27 AM
hi
arif 9/5/2004 6:33:47 AM
life gets only one time, sukh aur dukh zindagi ka ek eham hissa hain,i we all pray for her.Allah jannat naseeb karen.
fry biryani 9/4/2004 1:25:23 PM
what the Fu*K man
aks 9/4/2004 1:11:53 PM
i think she did not deserved fo that end .life is name of difficulties but never lose life on anycase .she should face the life but she cud not.
nida 9/3/2004 6:23:47 PM
hi ihave seen nafisa in a serial cats .
indira ojha 9/3/2004 5:03:56 AM
ITS HER FATE SHE MET,DONT THINK THE WORLD IS UR STOP,I GIVE U EXAMPLES LIKE DIANA,ALEXANDER ETC.THEYWERE THE BEST,BUT WHEN LEFT THE WORLD THEY DIED WITH EMPTY HANDS.SO FEAR ALLAH,THE ALL MIGHTY THE SUPREME POWER.U KNOW WHEN U DIE. ALLAH HAFIZ
salman 9/2/2004 9:53:46 AM
FEEL SORRY FOR HER!! ITS A REAL SHOCK!!!!
gilbert 9/2/2004 9:34:29 AM
I can't even move properly now after reading about Her death. Can anybody tell Me why did She die ? Please tell Me at BlondeImran@Yahoo.com
Immu Dear Jaani 9/2/2004 8:11:07 AM
Oh no ! How did She die ? Oh My God ! I want to know what was the problem with which Shewas having ?
Immu Dear Jaani 9/2/2004 8:09:33 AM
its good for her
nunku 9/2/2004 3:11:37 AM
My name is sahil and i live in Australia and i feel very sorry for her.
Sahil 9/1/2004 1:23:57 AM
sorrow ful of ur death and sorrow ful also that neither u get world nor Akhrat (Hereafter).
Tariq 8/31/2004 2:00:23 AM
hi i havent even heard of you but i feel sorry for you
qurrat 8/30/2004 5:38:40 PM
u must die so ur very bad that acting our childs
ashiq 8/30/2004 8:31:54 AM
hi, u were simply great.i pray to god what u didnt got this time u"ll get it in ur next janam! love u always.................................................
raj 8/29/2004 12:46:47 PM
hello, you r good singer
umar 8/29/2004 11:56:18 AM
r.i.P HUN, GOD'S WITH U NOW, U DID A WONDERFUL JOB, IM PROUD OF U, LOVE YA.
preety 8/28/2004 10:40:19 PM
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